Well, I'm no stranger to sounding like a noob on here, haha, but I have no idea how to tab a scale into a scale run which starts out at say, idk, the 5th fret on the low E string and ends at like the 21st fret on the high e string, i can play dorian in the key of A starting at the 5th fret, low E string, but just the scale, the notes on all 6 strings staying between the 5th and 9th frets, but not a scale run, I'm sure y'all know what I'm talking about, and if you could tell me I'd be very happy.

P.S. I'd prefer if the scale run had 3 notes per string, if that helps any.

I am not exactly sure what you are asking... what scale are you talking about? For the natural scales, 3 notes per string, are what is usually used, and are the most effective. you don't have any position shifts with these. If you want something like 3 and 4 notes per string mixed, or 4 notes per string, that would require position shifts, and/or large stretches which are NOT effective to use in your playing.

I used the Dorian mode as an example, but I'm asking how to take a scale, and make it into a scale run, going from up near the head on the 6th string and ascending all the way up to right next to the body of the guitar on the 1st string, I'm not sure what the terms are, I've only just recently began studying scales and modes and learning such terms, but I've described it the best way I can imagine.

Well you'll really need to know your scales in all positions on the neck to be able to construct such scale runs.

Start in the 5th position of A Dorian ascend till you reach say the f# on the A string, slide up to the A with your pinky, descend down to the f# on that string then ascend say another six notes of the scale in that position, slide up to another position descend three again, ascend six more. Continue till you get to the top of the neck and finish with a mind shattering string bend -or something like that. :D

Is this the sort of thing you mean clint? There are obviously many ways and patterns to do similar things. If I get time i'll tab one out. Paul Gilbert is a player that springs to mind when thinking about multi positional sequenced scale runs.

thats exactly what i mean, but i'm not familiar enough with scale positions on the neck, does each position start at a different fret marker?

There are a few ways to view the scales on the fret board - the best for speed is probabley three notes per string. When I was younger I drew out a diagram of the fet board on paper, photo copied it loads of times and then drew in the note positions on the diagram of the particular scale that I was working on. This gave me a global view of the fingerboard.

These days there are quite a few websites that have got all the scale resources you need - Like this one IbanezDeamon pointed me in the direction of -http://www.all-guitar-chords.com/guitar_scales.php

I would learn all the scale positions for the particular scale that you are working on -three notes per string - one new postion each day so you can soak the information into your head gradually. But learning the CAGED system may also help you produce different patterns and runs.

But if you look at a diagram of the fretboard with all the possible notes on it for a particular scale it doesn't take too much effort to visualise haow you may get from one end of the neck to the other in a number of different ways.

At the end of the day though its your ears that should determine your note choices when constructing runs - play what sounds good.

I'm rambling a bit I know - but I've had a few ales! :rolleyes:

|----------------------------------------------------------16--18--20--|
|----------------------------------------------13--15--17--------------|
|----------------------------------11--13--15--------------------------|
|----------------------10--11--13--------------------------------------|
|------------8--9--11--------------------------------------------------|
|--6--8--9-------------------------------------------------------------|

well, i ain't sure if i did it quite right, but it's from the Ionian mode in the key of C#, try it out, tell me what you think, keep in mind, it's my 1st scale run idea.

Ionian is just the Major Scale...here is C#/Db Ionian in 3-notes-per-string format descending and ascending:


|-----14-13-11----------------------------------------------------------------
|-----------------14-13-11----------------------------------------------------
|-----------------------------13-11-10----------------------------------------
|-----------------------------------------13-11-10----------------------------
|-----------------------------------------------------13-11--9-----------------
|----------------------------------------------------------------13-11--9------

|----------------------------------------------------------------11--13--14------
|----------------------------------------------------11--13--14------------------
|----------------------------------------10--11--13------------------------------
|----------------------------10--11--13------------------------------------------
|-----------------9--11--13------------------------------------------------------
|------9--11--13-----------------------------------------------------------------

That's a nice run Clint. I think it goes a bit out of key on the B string (unless that was intentional) but its a cool idea even so.

I will tab the sort of run I was trying to explain when I have time but I am at work so can't really spare the time at the moment.

thanks, i used a website where you like clicked a fret and it showed you the finger positions for each scale, i forget, but i think i would skip a fret every string, but i think at the B string i did skip to or somthing, haha, it was gettin a little late for me when I tabbed that out, but I'm glad you liked it, I'll try tabbing out another one when I get the free time, this time I'll make sure I'm wide awake! :lol:

what i would do for scale runs is just play the universal scale pattern. like e minor for example. then just look at the notes i played. e f# g a b c d then go on google and print one of those diagrams that shows all the notes on a fretboard. then simply starting with the open e on the 6th string circle like 4-8 notes of the scale on the string ( you can do as many as you wish) and do it all the way till it ends on the 24th fret. then id memorize it and mess around with it. use it in solos and stuff. good website for finding every scalar pattern known is all-guitar-chords.com

well, thanks, but i use that scale website that Hurricane Kid was kind enough to post, i've used it in the past, but i just realized how it could be used 4 scale run construction. i've been having some fun with that Ioanian run and this run i believe is in the Phrygian mode in the key of D


|--------------------------------------------------------------17--18--20--|
|-------------------------------------------------15--16--18---------------|
|------------------------------------12--14--15----------------------------|
|-----------------------10--12--13-----------------------------------------|
|-----------8--10--12------------------------------------------------------|
|--5--6--8------------------------------------------------------------------|

i just realized that its the same website. its really good. helped me alot with arpeggios too.

yeah, I love how it like automatically tabs out the arps