Title: Neo-classical chords
Devilman13 - September 24, 2008 10:38 AM (GMT)
ok so here's the other post :D What cords are typically used in neo-classical? Thanks guys
PerpetualBurn - September 24, 2008 06:13 PM (GMT)
Well it depends on what scale or mode you are using. If you were using E Phrygian Dominant some good chord choices would be 7b9 chords or even just a basic Emaj chord would sound good. For the harmonic minor just use major/minor seventh chords. Those are the most common chords, but I'm sure if you experiment you can find many others.
neoshredder - September 30, 2008 04:00 PM (GMT)
In Emin, play natural minor on Emin and A min. Than play E harmonic minor on the B7 chord. Usually the harmonic minor is played on the 5th chord and the 5th chord is altered to a Major chord to get that sound.
shredator - October 10, 2008 04:02 AM (GMT)
any guitar tablature would be greatly appreciated :-)
Cheers,
IbanezDaemon - October 10, 2008 09:14 PM (GMT)
There are no specific chords that cannot be used in any style of music. As rightly pointed out by PerpetualBurn and Neoshredder it comes down to any chord being used in context. I.e does it fit in with the framework of the song? You want to be looking at chord progressions for a better insight into this or any genre but in theory it is actually possible to use any chord if the structure of the song and the chord progression demand it.
Anyway I suggest that you acquire some Baroque Classical music and check out woks by Bach, Vivaldi, Handle etc. That way you'll get a good idea of chord progressions that are still prevalent in todays Neoclassical genre. :)
Clint Matthews - October 27, 2008 08:58 PM (GMT)
I usually sort of chicken pick some barred chords that are on the higher strings with my thumb and finger during slow passages or breaks in a song, and it usually sounds pretty cool when you tune your high e string down a step to d, but any chord should do with the right picking technique and a little reverb
Devon8822 - October 29, 2008 03:22 PM (GMT)
TBH chords are not a huge part of neo-classical metal at all... occasionally you will obviously come across some more extravagant ones, but for the most part the style is a akin to traditional classical music that very few chords and not very complex chords are used. Chords are a jazz thing... in classical and neoclassical metal we stick with the tonic, mediant, and dominant (1st, 3rd, 5th). That not to say not to use more complex chords, because they indeed are used, however they are not the standard.
PerpetualBurn - October 29, 2008 08:11 PM (GMT)
Yeah Devon is right chords are more of a jazz thing. Chords used in Neo-classical are pretty much just power chords. Yngiwe mainly writes in Ebminor so a viable chord that he could use is just a basic E power chord.
D------2-------------------
A------2-------------------
E------0-------------------
The chords used depend on scale or mode used, key of the song, and of course the musician writing the piece.
Also if you are still confused by the chords and phrasing commonly used in Neo-classical try this lesson by Yngwie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLa6iW7dRf4
Dimished5th - October 7, 2009 12:19 AM (GMT)
It all depends on what sound your going for really. So the best thing to do is find a bunch of chords that go in a certain key, and play different scales you like to those chords. Not exactly music theory friendly since there are "rukes" for what scale to use when, but it helps develope your ear to what you like. Besides breaking the rules in music can be a very good thing.
Muramasa - October 27, 2009 09:26 PM (GMT)
Learning from tabs your favourite songs and playing those sounds youlike can be helpful too, and much easier. Usually, tab books have music also written, and little explanations about harmony.
When having some knowledge of harmony, I think reading music (specially chords) becomes easier than reading tabs, so its worth some time.
Anyway, there is nothing better that asking to a teacher.
acdc51502112 - October 27, 2009 11:07 PM (GMT)
i don't use chords, unless they are REALLY needed to make a certain sound. I use the arpeggios more so than the actually chords.
DatM - October 28, 2009 02:27 AM (GMT)
Actually, jazz harmony is very similar to classical harmony, the big difference is that in jazz there's greater room for dissonance. They use 7th chords and tensions much more freely, and don't necessarily resolve them.
Classical music (and neo-classical) uses all the diatonic chords (of course some more than others), as well as secondary dominants.
Keep in mind that chords can be shared among instruments. By that I mean that even if the guitar is just playing power chords, other instruments might be playing other notes of that chord (like the 3rd). In a metal band this would most likely be the singer or the keyboards.
The important question isn't what chords are used, but rather HOW do you use those chords to make it sound neo-classical...and well, the answer to that is what other's have said. Listen and learn a lot of the music. Reading through a harmony/theory book or taking a course wouldn't hurt either.
xshorteyx - January 4, 2010 05:59 PM (GMT)
If ur not good at making up solos for certain chords, but you for example already have made a solo, with for example sweeping, just try out some powerchords.
But what i find extra cool is to take my sweeping apart, when it changes keys, and then i go through the notes i use for each sweeping part, when doing that, you can find out what chord that sweeping is based on.
Playing the same notes in the sweeping, as chords, at 1 or 2 octaves lower will most likely sound awesome.
for diminished D sweeps i would use diminished D chords, for minor and major sweeps, minor and major chords of the same root note.
malikshreds - January 4, 2010 07:25 PM (GMT)
http://www.all-guitar-chords.com/index.phpBasically any chord could work. You could use power chords. If you study Jason's Perpetual Burn, Jason was soloing over power chords. So yeah you can be creative with those.
nekros729 - January 8, 2010 08:23 PM (GMT)
Unless your using the individual notes in each chord and that's what you are looking for... In that case it also depends. I just love diminished minor and augmented chords that 7th can be a lot of fun to haha.