Title: Speed Picking Exercises
Description: Post an exercise!
Muramasa - June 20, 2010 09:45 PM (GMT)
I think it would be good to post some speed picking exercises that you use and you think it have payed some results.
You don't have to write all. Just the main pattern and the scale you are using.
This is mine:
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-----------------------------------------------------7-9-7---7--9--10-12-(sli)
--------------5-7-5---5-7-8-10(slide)-8-7-8-10--------10
8-7-5-7-8----------8----------------
5 Is the tonic of minor scale. The exercise coutinues with the same pattern until you reach 1st string.
The strokes are: D-U-D-U every time. No hammers or pulls.
IMPORTANT: when you reach 10freet after the 1st slide, don't avoid adding a downward struck. Note you could slide from 5 to 7 with your index finger (-5-7(slide)-8-10-). I use the pinky in the example.
You can practise making 5 the tonic of phrigian mode or locrian.
I think exercises like this are unavoidable if you want to play fast, so they're important in neoclassic metal.
Find courage and post some!!
Acousolysis - June 20, 2010 10:14 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Muramasa @ Jun 21 2010, 12:45 AM) |
| I think exercises like this are unavoidable if you want to play fast, so they're important in neoclassic metal. |
I find this statement somewhat untrue. Many exercises tend to be unmelodic in nature, which often makes them boring. That is, uninspiring; learning an Yngwie song and slowing down to a challenging yet comfortable tempo works just as well as an exercise (pun totally intended).
These kind of exercises can, of course, also be very beneficial. If not for purely enjoyable reasons, then at least for warming up. Here's a short segment of a string skipping exercise I came up with a long time ago.
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e|--17-18-17----12-------10-12------6-9-----5- B|------------------------------------------- G|-----------15----15-14-------10-9-----7-6--
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That could be played in A phrygian dominant.
Playing that, for reasons unkown, feels somehow natural - for me. You may amend that as much as you like: I like to do a quick slide up to the high A on the e string, then tap the Bb and pull-off back to the A, then pick the rest of the notes. I've tried hybrid picking on this a couple of times as well.
Muramasa - June 20, 2010 10:38 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Acousolysis @ Jun 20 2010, 10:14 PM) |
| QUOTE (Muramasa @ Jun 21 2010, 12:45 AM) | | I think exercises like this are unavoidable if you want to play fast, so they're important in neoclassic metal. |
I find this statement somewhat untrue. Many exercises tend to be unmelodic in nature, which often makes them boring. That is, uninspiring; learning an Yngwie song and slowing down to a challenging yet comfortable tempo works just as well as an exercise (pun totally intended).
OK, surely it's not an "inspired" exercise: for me, it's a technical one. I often practise similar exercises, and then, I try to mix them. When you mix patterns you are familiar with, that makes a fast run-up or run-down more easy to do, and you end up doing different things.
I think slowing a YJM song won't be as effective as a drill exercise, since in an exercise you play complete scales and do repetitive things to learn it well. But when slowing songs, you will rather practice isolated riffs... I think that is better to get fresh ideas...
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OK, surely it's not an "inspired" exercise: for me, it's a technical one. I often practise similar exercises, and then, I try to mix them. When you mix patterns you are familiar with, that makes a fast run-up or run-down more easy to do, and you end up doing different things.
I think slowing a YJM song won't be as effective as a drill exercise, since in an exercise you play complete scales and do repetitive things to learn it well. But when slowing songs, you will rather practice isolated riffs... I think that is better to get fresh ideas...
I don't know what you mean with the word "pun". It seems it's an irony, so I want to know. Forgive me if I look arrogant since my english is not very good.
Acousolysis - June 20, 2010 10:46 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Muramasa @ Jun 21 2010, 01:38 AM) |
| I don't know what you mean with the word "pun". It seems it's an irony, so I want to know. Forgive me if I look arrogant since my english is not very good. |
Haha, don't worry: it's ok. The pun was that Yngwie's songs are pretty much scalar exercises, to sum it all up.
malikshreds - June 20, 2010 11:34 PM (GMT)
Wait no way the five is the tonic unless you're talking about the first string.
Sound to me like you're doing something that Steve Morse would've talked about.
You could also make a picking exercise using the C major scale and go through all the modes till you're back to Ionian. (major)
Acousolysis - June 21, 2010 10:20 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (malikshreds @ Jun 21 2010, 02:34 AM) |
| Wait no way the five is the tonic unless you're talking about the first string. |
He is. The tonic's the fifth fret (A) on the low E string. That makes up the Aeolian mode of the C major scale, which is also the natural minor.
malikshreds - June 22, 2010 12:15 AM (GMT)
Oops my bad. I meant the sixth string.
Muramasa - July 4, 2010 04:26 PM (GMT)
It's a pity nobody posted any exercise except Acousolysis. I wasn't expecting that.
Then, I wonder what do you play when you want to be fast. Maybe only arpeggios. I wonder how do you work speed. Or is playing fast definitely outfashioned?
I am going to explain why I created this tread.
Note that many people came to the forum due to the section "Arpeggios", which is very intresting. When you spoke about new people in the forum, I decided to continue with that section and post some new Arps. I also thought it would be good to create a section similar to that, but with speed exercises. That's all.
Forums are dying. Do you see what happened to blogs (I never liked them)? They are now old-fashioned and nobody makes comments in any blog. I think the same is happening to forums. I noticed that searching for japanese language and music forums. People prefeer other personalized options (you know what options). People want their face to be seen, they words to be heard and want to make public around the world what they've done last sunday... They don't want to put some nearly-anonymous lines in a forum, where you only share knowledge for free without being asked lots of personal details.
As a result, only big forums with commercial purposes too (like the jemsite) will prevail, since they send you commercial advertisings. Other forums will get smaller and smaller until they'd be like a group of friends, but they won't grow anymore so people won't find them easily and will go to bigger ones. That'll mean less info shared.
I think there is not a dark hand under this process: Internet only reflects what people are. And with some good precission... IMO
Steve5513 - July 4, 2010 08:35 PM (GMT)
I don't really have any speed picking exercise, since I don't solo very much at all anymore. I play rythm pretty much all the time.
When I did solo a lot, I just took exercises from Paul Gilbert.
Muramasa - July 6, 2010 06:28 PM (GMT)
I think I made a mistake again when writing. Sorry. I didn't mean an exercise of your creation, but an exercise you practice and you think it pay good results, no matter if it's not yours.
Since writing it can be tiring, if you put a link to Youtube, for exemple, it's OK.
Muramasa - July 25, 2010 02:34 PM (GMT)
Wow, it's so sad that you didn't reveal to me your "secrets".
SAYOUNARA.
Steve5513 - July 25, 2010 02:54 PM (GMT)
I don't really do anything beyond learn songs. As Acousolysis said, Yngwie songs slowed down work well as an exercise.