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Steve5513 - May 10, 2010 10:28 PM (GMT)
I just wanted to draw attention to Scientology. Many people do not realize how evil Scientology is.

*Copy Paste from Whyweprotest.net

The Church of Scientology, while claiming to be a religion and functioning as such, behaves strikingly like a business and cult. The “fair game” policy, for example, is responsible for the harassment of numerous scientology critics over the years. As L. Ron Hubbard said, concerning suppressive peoples (those who are not in support of scientology):

“The homes, property, places and abodes of persons who have been active in attempting to: suppress Scientology or Scientologists are all beyond any protection of Scientology Ethics, unless absolved by later Ethics or an amnesty ... this Policy Letter extends to suppressive non-Scientology wives and husbands and parents, or other family members or hostile groups or even close friends.”

While this is bad enough in itself, Scientology has also been implicated in numerous fatalities among its members, including the famous case of Lisa McPherson, whose tragic death is remembered at her website (http://www.lisamcpherson.org/).

There have been numerous recorded cases of litigation against people who had attempted to paint the church in a manner that they did not specifically endorse, including Scientology’s attempts at silencing a Time magazine article that referred to them as a greedy and dangerous cult.

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Sorry for copy paste but I saw no reason to type it out when that would take considerably longer. Something that wall of text doesn't mention about Scientology is the RPF (Rehabilitation Project Force) This is prison camps. Scientologists get sent their when they fail to meet expectations in the cult, they have to spend their days doing hard manual labour and get very little sleep, and get sent their even if it is against their will. They even send children there.

Applying the principles of "Fair Game", L Ron Hubbard and his followers targeted many Government officials and agencies, including a programme of covert and illegal infiltration of the IRS and other US Government agencies during the 1970s.

You can see in various videos that when scientologists have their religion critisiced, they always go straight to ad hominem attacks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1AfN65gOPQ You should watch Thunderf00t's videos on scientology. Explains things better than I can. That particular one shows how Scientology is infact, incredibly similar to the Nazi party in how it controls it's members. You can also see Scientologists going to ad hominem attacks in face of critisism in those videos.

I encourage all of you to fight against Scientology as best you can.

Acousolysis - May 10, 2010 10:36 PM (GMT)
The greatest part is that prior to coming up with the whole "religion", Hubbard was a science fiction author. He's also openly admitted that if one wants to become rich, one should found a religious movement.

Steve5513 - May 10, 2010 10:50 PM (GMT)
http://s921.photobucket.com/albums/ad54/An...919521f65e8.jpg

They care about their members so much that they will make them better people (Or so they claim) for upwards of 300, 000 dollars. (This is roughly how much it supposedly takes to reach top level of Scientology)

Steve5513 - May 11, 2010 06:32 PM (GMT)

malikshreds - May 11, 2010 07:44 PM (GMT)
Does Scientology have a conclusion for how human beings got morality and the basis of what makes something bad?

Steve5513 - May 11, 2010 08:31 PM (GMT)
No. They have no real moral code, akin to the ten commandments or something similar. (Not that the ten commandments are all moral)

Their fair game policy clearly states that anyone who is not a scientologist can be lied to, attacked, stalked and destroyed without punishment to the scientologist.

Scientologists claim that Fair Game policy is no longer in use but this is lies. You can find examples of scientologists using the fair game policy on YT. Court documents from a case in the 70's in which scientology was found out to have infiltrated teh US government. L Ron Hubbards wife was arrested for it and she acted on orders from L Ron Hubbard to get information on "enemies of the church". They even had a folder on Richard Nixon and other high up government officials. This is all easily verifiable in the court documents.

IbanezDaemon - May 11, 2010 08:48 PM (GMT)
Can any of you guys sum up the Scientology thing for me in a nutshell? I've always heard of it but never knew anything about it's doctrine or it's claims. I've no doubt that the whole movement is complete and utter bollox though.

Steve5513 - May 11, 2010 08:59 PM (GMT)
You mean what they believe?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFx4NvShB6k&feature=related This explains some stuff about how it began. 1:41 long.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je4NcbPwLfM This explains what they actually BELIEVE, only like 2 minutes long. Bear in mind that the Xenu story is only revealed to high level scientologists. You have to pay for each course, and by the time you get to the point where you learn the Xenu story, you end up having paid about 300, 000 pounds.

Scientology also says, rather conviniently, that anyone who hasn't paid for the course to hear the Xenu story(That particular one is about 15k I hear) but hears the Xenu story anyway, will catch pnumonia (sp?) and die.

As for the immoral stuff, my first post contains what you need to know about how evil the cult is. The video in my first post should also be watched since it shows that the tactics scientologists use to control their members, are almost identical to those used by Nazi Germany.

Muramasa - May 11, 2010 10:25 PM (GMT)

Scientology... Aren't they those who made a casting to look for a wife for a famous and very very rich actor? That was fine, I expect they'd do for me if I join.

In my countrie, it is viewed as a "secta", as something dangerous and radical.

In internet I checked they are pretty hostile with those who don't think like them. And they have achieved some political power in the USA.

Surely they don't like people like Steve... I hope they will have more and more people like him to hate! :ph43r:

Steve5513 - May 11, 2010 10:34 PM (GMT)
Yup. When people protest Scientology, quite often scientologists will follow them around, stare at them without blinking (According to scientology handbooks, an unchanging stare is the mark of a good scientologist) and ask them what their crimes are, aswell as making a lot of ad hominem attacks. Scientologists deny this but it's all easily verifiable by googling it and looking at videos on YT.

They even sue people who critisice them just to harras them. They do everything they can to try and get people who are protesting in the street against scientology, to attack them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmbVeIC7czk here is an example of it.

IbanezDaemon - May 11, 2010 10:51 PM (GMT)
Holy sh*t!!! The second vid you sent me Steve, this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je4NcbPwLfM

LMFAO!!! Wooohooo... gimme some of the stuff that the idiot Hubbard is on. Far out!! No sane person could even think that up.

It really amazes me how easily led some people are. This planet is rapidly going bonkers!! :lol:

Muramasa - May 11, 2010 10:59 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Steve5513 @ May 11 2010, 10:34 PM)
Yup. When people protest Scientology, quite often scientologists  will follow them around, stare at them without blinking (According to scientology handbooks, an unchanging stare is the mark of a good scientologist) and ask them what their crimes are, aswell as making a lot of ad hominem attacks.


That seems similar to a zombie attack: they surround you and emit the same sounds...!

Honestly, that is very serious. You can't phisically stuck yourself to another person, shouting. Is like being attacked!

I just saw the video IbanezDaemon said. Does that Hubbard really wrote that, or both images and words are fictional?
If he really wrote that, it makes me remember the kind of "profetic" freaks which usually appear in variety/night shows and other TV programs.

Amazing...

Steve5513 - May 11, 2010 11:31 PM (GMT)
He wrote it. Not only that, but he was actually on some kind of drug.

Scientology also forces its members to have abortions.

"A letter Hubbard wrote to his third wife, Mary Sue, when he was in Las Palmas around 1967: "I’m drinking lots of rum and popping pinks and greys..."[127] An unauthorized Hubbard biography also says that "John McMasters told me that on the flagship Apollo in the late sixties he witnessed Hubbard's drug supply. 'It was the largest drug chest I had ever seen. He had everything!'".[127] This was confirmed by Gerry Armstrong through Virginia Downsborough who said in 1967 Hubbard returned to Las Palmas totally debilitated from drugs.[128] His drug use appears to pre-date the 1967 accounts.[129] Hubbard claimed in a letter to his first wife that he had once been an opium addict. The last sentence of the letter reads: "...I do love you, even if I used to be an opium addict."[6] [130]"

Yup... Opium. Not going to condemn someone for drug use. Their body, their money, do what they want with it, but it probably had a part in how he came up with this crap.

malikshreds - May 12, 2010 01:29 AM (GMT)
I watched the video about Xenu.
What in the world!
It is like superman(the old movie), comic book characters, and star trek put together.
Who came up with that?
I'm surprised scientologists believe these stuff and they got science in their name. It is just like any other ludicrous cult.

IbanezDaemon - May 12, 2010 12:00 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (malikshreds @ May 12 2010, 02:29 AM)
I watched the video about Xenu.
What in the world!
It is like superman(the old movie), comic book characters, and star trek put together.
Who came up with that?
I'm surprised scientologists believe these stuff and they got science in their name. It is just like any other ludicrous cult.

I reckon that ole Hubbard whilst on acid was watching old Flash Gordon shows and came up with the Xenu character.

Here's a pic of Xenu:
http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/Xenu_BBC_Panorama.jpg

Now here's a pic of Ming the Merciless, bad guy from the Flash Gordon comics:
http://blog.news-record.com/staff/culture/Ming%202.GIF

Xenu and Ming the Merciless, never before seen in the same room!! Surely one and the same.

I gotta be careful before a shower of Hot Hail gets sent down upon me!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Steve5513 - May 12, 2010 12:02 PM (GMT)
Rofl

Keen observation there.




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