Any of you guys know how to change a whole tone or phygian scale into an arpeggio.I heard Jason used whole tone arpeggios which absurd to me because I never knew how to do this. But I know how make my own major and minor arpeggios. Anyone can help me with this?

Hmm. Not totally sure on the Whole Tone thing. I never use that scale but I suppose you could take the notes from it to form a kind of Arpeggio. Here's one in D I think.

E|------------4-8-4------------------------
B|---------7---------7--------------------
G|-------7-------------7------------------
D|-----6------------------6---------------
A|-5-7----------------------5-7-------------
E|---------------------------------------

On Phrygian what I'd do would be to play say an E Minor arp (although Phrygian can work over major too) with the notes from the Phrygian scale added in:

E|--------------------7-8-10s12p7------------------------
B|-----------------8-----------------8------------
G|--------------9----------------------9------------
D|----------7-9----------------------------9--------
A|--7-8-10----------------------------------10-8-7--------
E|-------------------------------------------------

I think any arpeggio constructed using the whole tone scale will be an augmented arpeggio i.e. any arpeggio constructed from any scale tone will be root, major third, augmented fifth (with a dominant seventh if you want to make it into a seventh chord).

The augmented scale is a bit odd sounding but used in the right context can sound awesome. Cacophony did used it quite a bit in the more 'out there' sections as Malikshreds suggests.

Thanks for telling that whole tone is aug. arpeggio.
But how do you turn a scale into an arpeggio.I wanna learn those so I can do it for weird scales.

well first off a whole tone scale is just a scale of all whole steps, so pick a note and keep ascending or descengind in whole steps to get a whole tone scale. as for making arpeggios the most common way to make them is to take the 1st, 3rd, and 5th note in a scale to make an arpeggio. So basically all you have to do is take those notes and play them over and over again in different spots to make an arrpegio. If you already know major arpeggios, just look how those notes correspond with a major scale and you'll probably see that the notes are the 1st, 3rd, and 5th.

You guys know any website where I can find the notes of a scale? So i can do what Diminished 5th suggested.Thanks for ur advice.

You don't need a website. It's pretty easy to figure out what notes are in the scale, you just need to know the intervals for the various scales and then you can just use those to work your way through the scale.

If you need a website for scales the one below is good:

http://www.all-guitar-chords.com/chord_pro...VI-VII&get2=Get

I am confused with your statement,Steve. Under my guitar teacher, he never taught me about scales.He just showed me a major and minor scale. So can explain how to figure the notes that goes in the scale.
And what are the intervals? I was thinking of making an hirajoshi arpeggio. Might come in handy when I doing weastern guitar solos.

I'll do my best to explain. I'll use C Major as an example because that's easy to work with.

The notes in C major scale are:

C, D, E, F, G, A, B, C

The intervals for the Major scale are:

Whole step, Whole step, Half Step, Whole Step, Whole Step, Whole Step, Half Step

So knowing this you can now construct the major scale in any key you want. (I don't know how much theory you know etc but i assume you know all the notes in music in this explanation, if not , go learn them and this will hopefully make sense what i am explaning)

So starting from D:

D, E, F#, G, A, B, C#, D

A whole step is just going from one note to the next so D - E, or G - A. However since there is no E# or B# yoou end up on F# and C# respectively. A Half step is just half that so going from B to a half step would take you to C.

Read my theory combo thread. Here are the best ones I think that can explain it.
http://neoclassicalmetal.org/index.php?showtopic=19
http://neoclassicalmetal.org/index.php?showtopic=20
http://neoclassicalmetal.org/index.php?showtopic=21
And Arpeggios are chordal tones so just use single notes of the chord to get arpeggios. And you can harmonize most scales to get chords. Just find out the notes and use the theory lesson I did and apply it to that scale.

After digesting you guys words I finally figure it out. Thanks for you guys advise. now I'm going to making new arpeggios.

Glad we could help. :D

So update us the arpeggios you are planning to learn or already learned with relation to its scale. :)

I am very intrested too on japanese scales: some of them are even "bluesy".

Making a hirajoshi arpeggio is fun since the scale only has FIVE notes, so it sounds similar to an arpeggio.

Anyway, "hirajoshi" is not a name of a scale, but of a tunning for japanese instruments. Technically it's a mode of Yona-Nuki.

I compiled here some information found in the web. Please check it if you feel like it.

http://neoclassicalmetal.org/index.php?showtopic=768

This weekend I'm doing nothing so I'll create and post some arps for you guys.

Oh yeah I made a E iwato arpeggio.

|-----------------12---------
|-------------15-------------
|----------14----------------
|-------14-------------------
|---12-----------------------
|12--------------------------

Starts with a tonic and I got dibs on making up this arp :)

Another arpeggio you can play after that

|-----------------17-
|--------------15----
|-----------14-------
|--------14----------
|----17--------------
|14------------------

If you guys want some more just pm me. And I'll get them written down for you.